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Stuporman
22-10-2004, 08:54 PM
I bought these ponyfish from the NTUC Fairprice at Clementi for my friend John Sparks, and they turned out to be an undescribed species, which has been described in the following paper:

Sparks, JS & PV Dunlap, 2004. A Clade of Non-Sexually Dimorphic Ponyfishes (Teleostei: Perciformes: Leiognathidae): Phylogeny, Taxonomy, and Description of a New Species. American Museum Novitates, 3459: 1-21.

Abstract
A phylogeny was generated for Leiognathidae, commonly known as ponyfishes, using nucleotide characters from two mitochondrial genes. Results indicate that Leiognathidae comprises two major clades, one consisting of species that exhibit internally sexually dimorphic light-organ systems (LOS), and the Leiognathus equulus species complex, whose members exhibit neither internal nor external sexual dimorphism of the LOS. Species with internally sexually dimorphic LOS generally also exhibit associated male-specific external modifications in the form of transparent patches on the margin of the opercle, the midlateral flank, or behind the pectoral fin axil. The L. equulus species complex is the sister group to all other leiognathids, and a new species, L. robustus, recovered within this clade is described herein. Results demonstrate that Leiognathus is paraphyletic, whereas Gazza and Secutor are each monophyletic and are nested within the sexually dimorphic clade. The morphology of the LOS of non-sexually dimorphic leiognathids is compared to the more common sexually dimorphic state, and differences in these systems are discussed and illustrated. In the context of a family-level phylogeny, we can trace the evolution of the leiognathid LOS from a “simple” non-sexually dimorphic circumesophageal light organ to a complex and species-specific luminescence system involving not only major structural modifications of the light organ itself but also numerous associated tissues.

hwchoy
22-10-2004, 09:09 PM
whoa! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I'd be interested to see how the type locality is being described :D

so… got PDF boh?

Stuporman
22-10-2004, 09:12 PM
I'd be interested to see how the type locality is being described

It's simply listed as "Singapore: fish market" or something like that. Telling the angmohs that it came from NTUC Fairprice in Clementi would just be lost on them, so I kept it simple.

hwchoy
22-10-2004, 10:08 PM
could have said: “Singapore: supermarket.” :)

Stuporman
22-10-2004, 10:24 PM
Americans get confused by the term "supermarket". What we call a "supermarket" is a "grocery store" to them.

hwchoy
22-10-2004, 10:25 PM
hey, only 183mm SL. Is that an Ikan Kekek? Those you use to make Ikan Asam?

Stuporman
22-10-2004, 10:26 PM
Dunno leh. The asam fish I eat were all scombroids (mackerel), I recall.

silane
22-10-2004, 10:28 PM
NTUC Fairprice sell ornamental fish??

Stuporman
22-10-2004, 10:29 PM
This one not ornamental fish, but for makan one...

budak
22-10-2004, 10:36 PM
choy, better hang out in the chilled seafood section more liao!! and ask the aunties, simi fish har? :woot:

hwchoy
22-10-2004, 10:55 PM
mrs budak is going to wonder why the budak is so keen to go supermarket and keep harassing the fish auntie :D

silane
22-10-2004, 11:22 PM
This one not ornamental fish, but for makan one...

Nice to hear that. I don't hope NTUC goes into ornamental fish at all.

budak
22-10-2004, 11:25 PM
Actually, I saw a PetMart corner (food and accessories) in the Liberty mart (run by NTUC) in Jurong mall....

crandf
23-10-2004, 12:08 AM
choy, better hang out in the chilled seafood section more liao!! and ask the aunties, simi fish har?

Cryogenics!