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ryan84
11-03-2003, 05:03 PM
can this be done~?


the top is white thick sponges
then carry on is the blue mat that come together
then bio balls
then biohome
then Ceramic Rings


i using IOUS tank.


will the water clear?


:rolleyes: :confused:
thanx

happybuddha
11-03-2003, 05:18 PM
Sure it'll work but I'd put BioHome way on the bottom, becoz ceramic rings can act as mechnical filtration.

To make full-use of the bio-balls, just make sure they are not submerged in water. That means you must keep the water level in that compartment just above the Ceramic Rings/BioHome. Like that got water trickling effect for the bioballs. If the bioballs are submerged, you'd be better off using just BioHome and Ceramic Rings.

Also, BioHome works better if it's exposed to zero-light, which is a bit difficult to achieve in IOS. Try to shade them... somehow. They'll still work in IOS but not in its best capability.

Finally, I'd put the media in nets so that it'll be easier to remove them for the occassional rinsing (with aged water.)

art
11-03-2003, 06:26 PM
happybuddha basically summed it up :)

I concur with placing the biohome all the way at the bottom too.

In this order perhaps :

the top is white thick sponges
then carry on is the blue mat that come together
then Ceramic Rings
then bio balls
then biohome

If possible , for even better filtration replace the bioballs with a whole lot more ceramic rings or biohome is budget allows.
I personally find bioballs a waste of space but then are dirt cheap...

ryan84
11-03-2003, 08:02 PM
btw can biohome clear cloudy water?

mine water has been cycle for about 1.5 weeks but still getting cloudy water...

i have add an airpump to increase Oxygen, change 30% of water every day and today just swop the filter medium which aready mature and take 50% of mature water from another tank and put it in today. So i like to throw in some biohome to try and see and clear this cloudy water or not.

cloud79
12-03-2003, 12:07 AM
Not really! The cotton is the one that ensure clarity of your water. Biohome is gd in trapping bacteria for biological filtration! :)

Shirley
12-03-2003, 07:52 AM
how abt...

1. top one layer of lousy cotton filter
2. thick layer of good cotton filter
3. blue or green mat
4. another blue or green mat (kiasu)
5. ceremic ring
6. bioball

1,2,3 together in a box....
4, 5 in a box
6 byitself

biohome too ex..... :D

i toking abt OH filter now ok?

or maybe diff compartment diff material since a 4ft tank got 3 boxes and i going to stack up to 2 layers

Shirley
12-03-2003, 08:05 AM
like that how?

happybuddha
12-03-2003, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by ryan84
btw can biohome clear cloudy water?

mine water has been cycle for about 1.5 weeks but still getting cloudy water...

i have add an airpump to increase Oxygen, change 30% of water every day and today just swop the filter medium which aready mature and take 50% of mature water from another tank and put it in today. So i like to throw in some biohome to try and see and clear this cloudy water or not.

Are there actually some fishes in the tank? The BB needs amonia from fish's waste and decaying food to live. BioHome does not clear cloudy water immediately. It takes time for BB to cultivate on it. How much time? I dunno but with matured water and old filter medium, maybe a week or two. Meanwhile I hope you didn't accidentally destroyed the BB via chlorine from tap water, either becoz you washed the filter medium in tap water, or added fresh tap water instead of aged water. Other than that, you just have to wait for the tank to cycle. :(

happybuddha
12-03-2003, 09:43 AM
Originally posted by Shirley
like that how?

Looks like your bioballs are submerged in water. That's fine except you're not fully utilizing the available space in your filter to house more BB. You'd better off replacing the bioballs with ceramic rings, or other sinister glass materials such as BioHome and Eheim's Ehfisubstrat.

IMO, bioball should only be used if you have a wet/dry section, typically found in IOS or sump filter. Otherwise just use ceramic rings or sinister glass. Bioballs maybe cheap but what's the point if they're not effective in an overhead or canister filter anyway? :(

leafhorn
12-03-2003, 12:42 PM
If you think again, bioball actually not cheap at all. I rather go with sinstered glass.

Shirley
12-03-2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by happybuddha
Looks like your bioballs are submerged in water. That's fine except you're not fully utilizing the available space in your filter to house more BB. You'd better off replacing the bioballs with ceramic rings, or other sinister glass materials such as BioHome and Eheim's Ehfisubstrat.

IMO, bioball should only be used if you have a wet/dry section, typically found in IOS or sump filter. Otherwise just use ceramic rings or sinister glass. Bioballs maybe cheap but what's the point if they're not effective in an overhead or canister filter anyway? :( got submerge in water meh? the water drip from the top then drip down.........

leafhorn
12-03-2003, 12:54 PM
Don use bioball shirley, they dont do well in a OH, because of lack of space, I tried, I know, in the end sell away all 200 bioballs. Now my OH only sponge.

S|aO_|aNG
12-03-2003, 07:31 PM
Eh... Wats BioBall???
I noe wat it looks like. But can noe wats the use for it?
Thanks... :D

Shirley
13-03-2003, 07:38 AM
Originally posted by leafhorn
Don use bioball shirley, they dont do well in a OH, because of lack of space, I tried, I know, in the end sell away all 200 bioballs. Now my OH only sponge. then if like that, all is mechanical filtration only.... i wan bio filtration too....

leafhorn
13-03-2003, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by Shirley
then if like that, all is mechanical filtration only.... i wan bio filtration too....

Then ceramic rings or biohome.

art
15-03-2003, 10:58 PM
Sponge also can be for biological filtration.

Actually beneficial bacteria can grow and cultivate on any kind of surface.
But the idea of having speific biological filtration medium is to maximise the amount of surface area in which they can cultivate on.
So sponge also can , but just means less surface area as compared to say biohome.