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hwchoy 28-05-2005 11:33 PM

Pangio sp. ?
 
seeing we're having so much fun with loaches, here's a couple more…

a dark brown slim one from LFS.



Graeme 29-05-2005 06:24 AM

Pangio oblonga

Mike Ophir 29-05-2005 10:23 AM

I thought "Pangio oblonga" the moment I saw the photo. No doubt in my mind this is Pangio oblonga, also commonly known in many pet shops as "Black Khuli Loach" or Chocolate Khuli Loach. Interestingly enough, I have found that this particular species of Pangio is more active during the day than Pangio khuli, an interesting comparioson. It is a bulky species in comparison to Pangio shelfordi some other, less frequently seen species of Pangio.

Keep the loach pics coming! Great stuff!

- Mike Ophir

hwchoy 29-05-2005 12:54 PM

is it! I thought P. oblonga has a thick body like P. myersi? I got this guy in a tank of kuhli's like this one, together with that other patternless kuhli discussed here.

P. kuhli




here's what I think is P. myersi, you can compare the sand grains to gauge the size of the fish.

P. myersi


hwchoy 29-05-2005 01:11 PM

having said what I just said, I checked the Kottelat Lao book and it says: "plain brown body, no nasal barbel, relatively slender body depth 7-8 times in SL, caudal emarginate."

so does my fish lack a nasal barbel and what is emarginate?

bornNeo 29-05-2005 01:29 PM

If I'm not wrong, emarginate= rather concave (at margin of fin's tip)??!! :drunk:

hwchoy 29-05-2005 03:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by hwchoy
having said what I just said, I checked the Kottelat Lao book and it says: "plain brown body, no nasal barbel, relatively slender body depth 7-8 times in SL, caudal emarginate."

so does my fish lack a nasal barbel and what is emarginate?



looks like body depth is reasonably close at almost 6.8 times into SL, measuring from the dorsal spine base vertically down to the abdomen.

Stuporman 30-05-2005 02:00 AM

Emarginate means the fin is concave in the center (think of it as being very gently forked, or somewhere between truncate and forked).

hwchoy 30-05-2005 02:03 AM

OK, so my fish has emarginate caudal fin. :) what about that nasal barbel?

Stuporman 30-05-2005 02:13 AM

I see a skin flap, but no nasal barbel.

hwchoy 30-05-2005 02:26 AM

ah good. have to see whether Kottelat describes this nasal barbel anot :)

Erwin 21-06-2006 07:37 PM

Pangio from China
 
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Recently Aq.Glaser received some Pangio sp. from a shipment from China. I don't think that they were caught in China, my guess is they are from some southern surrounding countries. I searched former threads concerning Pangio and found one with a close affinity which was believed to be P. oblonga. What do you think, is the blue headed loach on my pics the same species?

Quote:
Originally Posted by hwchoy
seeing we're having so much fun with loaches, here's a couple more…

a dark brown slim one from LFS.




The other two species where containments, one might be P. anguillaris, and the other one I have no idea (P. sp. Brownstripe).

Stuporman 21-06-2006 08:10 PM

The long, thing Pangio is P. doriae, and the last one is P. shelfordii, I think.

avant 21-06-2006 08:28 PM

I'm still confused over P. doriae and P. anguillaris. How do we differentiate them easily?

Stuporman 21-06-2006 08:30 PM

Pangio doriae has nasal barbels. Pangio anguillaris doesn't.


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